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And are we seeing what Benjamin Wittes was worrying about more than five years ago that it's some kind of imminent threat-type justification? For example ... DANIEL KLAIDMAN: Seniority. Harold Koh's conclusion, based on the evidence and the intelligence that he saw ... Was that Robow was not externally-focused. You guys have essentially rewritten the Constitution here today.]. Who is the enemy? If you go to Mills College in Oakland, and we sent reporter there, you will find 60,000 letters. Copyright © 2019 New York Public Radio. Literally hundreds of people from throughout the national security bureaucracy ... Log in to decide who's on the list and who isn't, and who should live and who should die. The second paragraph, "General Suleimani was actively developing plans to attack American diplomats and service members in Iraq and throughout the region. This is a very ...]. As long as you have a capacious enough understanding of what the word "imminent" means, you might be able to continue a whole lot of this stuff. GREGORY JOHNSEN: All of these friends are coming up to her and saying, "You've got to go back. But President Bush needed Congress on his side, he felt. The committee meets today to receive testimony on the law of armed conflict ...]. We can't show political divisions. GREGORY JOHNSEN: He does a quick sort of search on his computer. more information about Sloan at www.sloan.org.]. You know, clearly the country's under attack. The story is based on a -- an article that Gregory wrote about the 60 simple words that have really defined American counterterrorism for more than a decade. GREGORY JOHNSEN: He really has no idea, so he goes back to the last time that the US did this. Joe Biden, on the day of the vote, September 14th, 2001, he says, "Look people, don't freak out about this language. This is not confirmed yet, but it could very well have been a U.S. predator drone strike. And the truth is, we all want a V-J Day. It seems to say it invokes -- it is suggestive of imminence without saying it. "That the President is authorized to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations or persons.". [ARCHIVE CLIP, Lyndon B. Johnson: By a number of hostile vessels.]. JAD: About, like, is this legal? JAD: That must have been a very lonely moment. And so when I read Gregory's article, I felt like I understood something crucial for the first time, about the way words actually operate in the world. The true story of how not to win the World Cup. A U.S. drone strike killed the head of Iran's Quds Forces, Qassim Suleimani. That would have been hard for you, I would figure. Because music is the thing that walks us through our lives. And the Pentagon emailed me back and they said, "That list is classified and not for public release.". You couldn't simply under Harold Koh's theory go after, say, a driver or a cook who was in Al-Qaeda, or even foot soldiers, because they were fungible. And maybe she saw something about how this would play out. They have not wanted to provide a public list because they ... One, the groups move all the time. So Al-Qaeda, yes. It's a considered, careful decision. And so if you say, "Well, these are associated groups," well then certain people just move from group A to Group B. The essential source for local political reporting, interviews and analysis. Only the most foolish and the most callous would not understand the grief that has really gripped our people and millions across the world. Which they did. Now Harold Koh, according to Dan Klaidman's reporting was in those SVTS meetings, and he would often be the one to answer the generals' questions. He said, "I'm really proud of you.". And Senator Kaine told us that one of the most hair-raising moments for him was when one of his fellow Senators, Lindsey Graham, asked one of the Department of Defense officials ... Do you agree with me the war against radical Islam or terror, whatever description you'd like to provide will go on after the second term of President Obama?]. JAD: Now we should note that Barbara Lee is still a Congresswoman. Our staff includes Ellen Horne, Soren Wheeler ...], Andy Mills and Kelsey Padgett. He goes look, we're in an age of warfare where the war isn't gonna end with the signing of a peace treaty on the deck of a destroyer. Going all the way back to when she was 15 in high school in San Fernando Valley. JAD: We're going to try to decode those words. She got to the cathedral. [ARCHIVE CLIP: Are these people happy? ], [ARCHIVE CLIP, DoD Official: Associated force. And since she wasn't sure how she was gonna vote, she planned to skip the memorial service. ], [ARCHIVE CLIP: We will rally behind our President. JAD: A few months before this conversation, this is in 2010, Al-Shabaab bombed a rugby club and a restaurant at the same time in Uganda killing 74 people. JAD: Because everybody there knew the danger of ill-defined words. That is not in the AUMF. Is it the administration's position that ...]. A new series from The Atlantic and WNYC Studios. Jeh Johnson argued vehemently that Robow was covered under the AUMF. In other news, World Cup celebrations have turned to tragedy in the Central African nation of Uganda.]. So does this make them an associated force, or does it make them part of Al-Qaeda? By Gwynne Hogan, WNYC March 4, 2021 5:00 a.m. Gov. JAD: For Koh, if they were just participants in a civil war you couldn't target them, but if they were targeting Westerners or Western interests then yes. I assume it does suit you very well, because you're reading it to cover everything and anything.]. All of which sounds -- although it never really says it outright -- that there was some kind of imminent threat that needed to be dealt with. Like -- and so the implication there is we're trying to send them a message. But the truth is, it may have just been there from the beginning. Her heart is saying one thing. A SWAT team, an autistic man, an American tragedy. JAD: It's like a subset of force, basically. ], Yes, sir. TIM KAINE: There ought to be a day where those who have served in war, that you declare that the war is over and then you celebrate them. They're not all negative, but most are. ... including the status of the 2001 authorization for the use of military force, the AUMF.]. 1991, Iraq. And we'll talk about why in a second. I don't think I can get into that on this call. [NEWS CLIP: The Rangers and Marines took casualties mostly from hidden snipers.]. ], [ARCHIVE CLIP: Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of the authorization. And I've covered national security and counterterrorism for many years. But it did raise a basic question for us, which is how is the United States government justifying this? Okay, so that's detention. Amy Walter has an insider view on Washington. Radiolab supported in part by the National Science Foundation ...], Enhancing public understanding of science and technology in the modern world. Now deterrence is not a imminent threat issue, right? And this is not a Trump thing. Only the most foolish and the most callous would not understand the grief that has really gripped our people and millions across the world. You -- you cannot vote this way. The body of this document, the part that really matters, and the reason that when I was reading Gregory's reporting on this, I was like, "What?" Now many of them are backbenchers. That's a wrap. Good morning, everybody. We know it's a Democrat. So that had just happened. And I think he wants to have done that. The Wall Street Journal & Gimlet. You don't make decisions when you're mourning, afraid. Wow, so what you -- what you were worried about back in 2014 about, like, this drift that would happen, where the AUMF would get stretched but then also things would get layered onto it to where it's impossible to know the borders anymore of who's our actual enemy and who isn't, and what even is war in this context? Broken chairs, smashed tables and the sounds of pain as rescuers search for the living and the dead.]. But you know, I'm also troubled by another thing. in this 4-part audio production, airing July 13-16 at 8 p.m. on WNYC. [ARCHIVE CLIP, Tom Daschle: Mr. Durban. It's called the authorization for use of military force. So there you have situating the current threat claim against a past pattern and practice of a robust series of attacks that in fact killed a lot of such people. JAD: All of which sounds -- although it never really says it outright -- that there was some kind of imminent threat that needed to be dealt with. JAD: If you don't think about that too hard, it is crystal clear. Fast forward many years, she becomes a congresswoman. But common sense tells you that these are different kind of enemy, not a state or a government. The argument with which I am comfortable as a legal matter ... Is this. NPR. That's Ben Wittes, by the way. GREGORY JOHNSEN: Don't revisit this sentence, don't repeal it. How -- like, because you read the thing and you don't see any mention of Guantanamo Bay in those 60 words. He defines the enemy as Al-Qaeda, the Taliban and associated forces. So I'm assuming that the Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee knows every item on that list. There are multiple methods, but I'm not gonna go into that. BEN WITTES: It is still doing a lot of work. Don't revisit this sentence, don't repeal it. Who is the U.S. at war with? We don't know anything more than that. That's next. Then I guess like, the -- the important question for me is like, how often do they say no? JAD: We will link to it from Radiolab.org. I probably was the last one on the bus. This is a very ...]. We don't know if ...]. There are lawyers really almost behind every bomb. He said, "I'm really proud of you.". And whatever other kind of sected you could do. There's nothing you do. Where does he rank and what kinds of operations has he been involved in in the past? What we've been calling the 61st and 62nd words. Joe Biden, on the day of the vote, September 14th, 2001, he says, "Look people, don't freak out about this language. So at that moment with the memorial service about to start, and a few hours until the House vote, Barbara Lee was at the Capitol. Radiolab is supported in part by the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation, enhancing public understanding of science and technology in the modern world. JAD: And in the context of what happened to those 60 words, you do have to wonder what's gonna happen to a word like "imminent?" Oh, there's another one. ROBERT: Yeah, we have dissected, we have bisected. Like a ... JAD: No, I'm referring to a general sense that somehow, like, Oz is out there behind the curtain pulling levers and I'm just always going to be stuck on this side, you know? Hosted by Glynn Washington. Again, this was originally broadcast in 2014, but it -- it seems to really speak to what's happening right now. ], I don't know why you decided to place yourself into the camp of terrorists.]. And what do you think about that?". And so if you say, "Well, these are associated groups," well then certain people just move from group A to Group B. JAD: And it's well understood by people who understand this kind of stuff that in the Constitution and also in international law, the President is allowed to act unilaterally in self-defense when there is an imminent threat. And so that is invoking the idea of pre-emptive self-defense, right? So it's a little bit of Choose Your Own Adventure, but it's also perhaps more importantly, it's we need all the adventures in order to -- because if you just rely on the self-defense and troop defense thing then the question becomes well, what are the troops even doing there, right? GREGORY JOHNSEN: And he said something that really struck Barbara Lee. Everything from Guantanamo Bay to drone strikes to secret renditions to SEAL raids, it's all been hung off these 60 words. GREGORY JOHNSEN: Barbara Lee was the only person in the Senate or the House to cast a No vote. It doesn't mention drone strikes against American citizens. Was something that almost no one agreed to. [NEWS CLIP: We know it's a Democrat. [ARCHIVE CLIP, DoD Official: Senator, in my judgment this is gonna go on for quite a while and yes, beyond the second term of the President. So does this make them an associated force, or does it make them part of Al-Qaeda? This vote is gonna take you out. Who is the U.S. at war with? Okay so we -- I'm gonna cut in here. With Roger Bennett of the Men in Blazers podcast. Celebrity guests, stand-up and a house band. For the healing of our grief-stricken hearts. JOHN BELLINGER: The Authorization to Use Military Force Act has ... [NEWS CLIP: What happens at military commissions at the ...]. Just three days removed from these events, Americans do not yet have the distance of history. We're talking about groups. If I punch you in the face, that's using force. I'm not sure. I probably was the last one on the bus. Absolutely nobody. The first thing that he told us is that, even though Obama -- President Obama pledged to get rid of the AUMF in that clip that we played in the episode, it's still very much here, very much in effect. These are not in any sense associated forces of Al-Qaeda. The story is based on a -- an article that Gregory wrote about the 60 simple words that have really defined American counterterrorism for more than a decade. GREGORY JOHNSEN: But then the question that has arisen over time, is how broad do you make that -- that circle? Let's start there. That's pretty far-reaching. And the signal that is sent to the White House was, you will be taking military action, even though the top lawyer of the State Department said that this would be an illegal action. He had a bit of a cold. One that is filled with sorrow for the families and the loved ones who were killed and injured this week. ", [ARCHIVE CLIP, Angus King: Gentlemen, I've only been here five months, but this is the most astounding and most astoundingly disturbing hearing that I've been to since I've been here. Let me just see if I can understand what you just said. JAD: Because according to Ben Wittes from The Brookings Institution ... BEN WITTES: There is a concept in the laws of war called co-belligerency. They say that they will not tell you the names of the people were at war against. You just had to go back 50 years ... My fellow Americans, as President and Commander-In-Chief ...]. Like many documentaries on this list, consider this to be a tough but necessary watch. But still, when Barbara read that and saw phrases like "All necessary and appropriate force," she thought, "What does that even mean?". How are we doing this in all these different places? I think that's the right way to say his name. You now have lawyers on the ground ... Lawyers in Kevlar, lawyers in helicopters. An original comedy series for kids about a dog and a cat with dueling podcasts. JOHN BELLINGER: They have not wanted to provide a public list because they ... JOHN BELLINGER: One, the groups move all the time. Because being an adult doesn’t come with instructions. More information about Sloan at www.sloan.org.]. JAD: That's just by way of introduction. ], [GREGORY JOHNSEN: Enhancing public understanding of science and technology in the modern world. JAD: Oui, oui. By submitting your information, you're agreeing to receive communications You mean, we can't shoot everybody or anybody. Yeah. None have ever been charged.]. A list of our sites. Members, individual members -- and Senator Tim Kaine deserves a real shout out here -- have tried to assert a kind of principled limits on allowing this drift to take place, but the actual posture institutionally of Congress is it doesn't push back against these theories, it doesn't clarify the law. She gets elected to a second term. The Authorization to Use Military Force Act has ... What happens at military commissions at the ...]. BARBARA LEE: That was really hard. You are looking at obviously a very disturbing live shot there. Check out Gregory's piece. The Experiment It's easy to forget that the United States started as an experiment: a government of the people, by the people, and for the people, with liberty and justice for all. JAD: I mean, technically in an emergency ... BEN WITTES: The President can defend the country. Oh my God, another plane has just hit!]. BARBARA LEE: You had to have certain criteria, like, at least whether it was stated or not, blonde and blue-eyed. And maybe she saw something about how this would play out. JAD: Longer than Vietnam. JAD: So you've got the top lawyer at the State Department and the top lawyer at the Pentagon facing off as to whether this fellow Robow from Al-Shabaab should live or die. So if you're authorized to use force to kill people you are also by default authorized to use force to detain them. GREGORY JOHNSEN: But the second speaker ... JAD: A Reverend by the name of Nathan Baxter. Namely they have begun to call upon this whole collection of loose, unidentified powers that the Constitution gives a President in order to protect the United States. You got a picture and some stats. It remains the legal basis for a whole lot of detention operations including Guantanamo Bay. JAD: Because the problem, obviously, is that we're not talking about nation-states anymore. BARBARA LEE: Yeah. People were nodding. ", GREGORY JOHNSEN: One of them actually said to her, "Look, you've done so much on HIV, you've done so much on AIDS. He is a Senior Editor at the Brookings Institution, Editor-In-Chief at the blog Lawfare. What does that mean?". Also, thanks to the great Dylan Keefe for original music and Glenn Kotche for music from his album Adventureland. JAD: That is -- well, you could say defined America for the last 12 years. It suggests that the fundamental theory is a force protection theory. This is one of the enduring mysteries of this. JAD: So that one word, force, that is how you justify Guantanamo Bay. The Michael Hastings National Security Reporting Fellow at BuzzFeed. I remember looking back and saw a lot of smoke. In other words, who we are or aren't at war with. And you keep using the term, "associated forces." And you could see that, like, we started with a war that was in Afghanistan and then it spread to a lot of different places: Pakistan, Libya, Somalia. ], [ARCHIVE CLIP: Gentleman from California is recognized for a minute and a half. Flanagan grabs the text. In fact, he belonged to a faction of Al-Shabaab ... That was arguing against attacking the United States and other Western interests. And she became the first Black cheerleader at her high school. So now we're talking about contemporary activity. Whatever it takes. And he -- he sees it the way I see it, because I really wasn't sure what he was saying because -- you know, I really wasn't sure. BARBARA LEE: Oh, yes. The first paragraph reads, "At the direction of the President, the U.S. Military has taken decisive defensive action to protect US personnel abroad by killing Qassim Suleimani, the head of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, Quds Force, a U.S-designated foreign terrorist organization." A wondrously surreal world of magic, music, and mystery. The final vote for the House was 420 to one. And according to Dan Klaidman, at this moment in intelligence circles, there was a debate raging as to whether Al-Shabaab should or should not be considered an associated force. JOHN BELLINGER: That's my congressional testimony voice. GREGORY JOHNSEN: All 98 of them vote yay. You use it 13 times in your statement. Italy joins their side. I rise in support of this resolution, which authorizes the President to use all force necessary ...]. Thank you very much, everybody. Did they decide not to? For the souls and sacred memory of those who have been lost.]. 60 WORDS FINAL WEB TRANSCRIPT (January 7, 2020 version) JAD ABUMRAD: Hey, it's Jad. He said he couldn't comment on any of it because it's classified. ROBERT: It's called the authorization for use of military force. And what do you think about that?". So by default, we're at war with Italy too. Immersive, cinematic audio fiction broadcast from the top of the Eiffel Tower. And based on hundreds of confidential interviews that became his book. Right. Yes. And we're gonna mysteriously find that there are a whole lot of imminent threats ... [ARCHIVE CLIP, Barack Obama: ... for freedom. Because it means that we're not just shooting away at people willy-nilly or because we're angry at them or anything. GREGORY JOHNSEN: And then he copies that into a Word document and that becomes his template. GREGORY JOHNSEN: And then as soon as President Bush steps down, everyone in the congregation stands up. It's not definitive. At a Committee hearing ... A U.S. GREGORY JOHNSEN: Absolutely. [ARCHIVE CLIP, Tim Kaine: Is that the administration's position that the AUMF would -- would cover them and those organizations? ... Cuomo also asked her personal questions, including if she had a boyfriend, which she did not consider out of line. He told us about these meetings. And as she was speaking -- this is taking place in the basement of the Capitol Building -- she sees some of her Democratic colleagues start to nod. He basically announces that he would like to get rid of those 60 words and end this war. ], Hi, this is Dan Klaidman, and I'm going to read the credits as I've been asked to. ], Would you -- would you give us that list? Oui, oui. ROBERT: And with reporter Gregory Johnsen. Mark it down on your calendar.]. But Congressman Lee says she never faltered because right after the vote when she was in her office. It was signed into law on September 18, 2001. We expect things will likely change pretty rapidly, and we'll do our best to update this episode as -- as they do. You got a picture and some stats. And the courts have upheld that. Speaking of the president, eventually President Bush takes the podium. Who's in the room? And so seven days after that Senate Armed Services Committee hearing, President Obama ... [ARCHIVE CLIP, Barack Obama: It is a great honor ...], [ARCHIVE CLIP, Barack Obama: ... to return to the National Defense University.]. The United States will continue to take all necessary action to protect our people and interests wherever they are in the world." ROBERT: And how does this work? There is smoke pouring out of the Pentagon. Eventually a general will come on the screen and say, "Here's our target.". GREGORY JOHNSEN: Because now the group in Yemen, Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, which is a group that -- that was first formed in 2009, they have their own hierarchy and their own structure. You now have lawyers on the ground ... JOHN BELLINGER: With artillery units, tank commanders. According to Dan Klaidman, who spoke with a lot of people familiar with the process, Koh in particular had a fascinating way of determining who is and is not an associated force. JAD: Both Barbara and Ron were trained as psychiatric social workers, so they both knew that when a person is feeling all of those things, it's generally better to do nothing. You -- you cannot vote this way. That's -- that's John Bellinger. I'm about to read to you the text of your credits. He had a bit of a cold. JAD: Because this actually wasn't the first draft. And that catch-all category is "associated forces.". The authoritative record of New York Public Radio’s programming is the audio record. People were nodding. 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